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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t understand some parts of this article Blogging, the Nihilist Impulse, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.</description>
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		<title>By: re-public: re.imagining democracyRe-public : re-imagining democracy - english version &#187; Helen Kambouri and Pavlos Hatzopoulos - The banality of blogging or how does the web affect the public-private dichotomy</title>
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		<dc:creator>re-public: re.imagining democracyRe-public : re-imagining democracy - english version &#187; Helen Kambouri and Pavlos Hatzopoulos - The banality of blogging or how does the web affect the public-private dichotomy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Whatever its impact and the trajectories it made possible, Luther Blissett was an attempt to challenge existing parameters of the public sphere by producing a private being. Counter to blogging’s introspective character, projects of this kind promote an ethos of invention, performing alternative individualities already engaged in political struggles and working towards their digital re-articulation. Counter to blogging’s embrace of closed identities who ‘speak out’ to the world, Luther Blissett type of projects set out an open identity, depended on the digital performances that will be enacted in its name, an open identity which is amendable in relation to the political projects it engages with. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Whatever its impact and the trajectories it made possible, Luther Blissett was an attempt to challenge existing parameters of the public sphere by producing a private being. Counter to blogging’s introspective character, projects of this kind promote an ethos of invention, performing alternative individualities already engaged in political struggles and working towards their digital re-articulation. Counter to blogging’s embrace of closed identities who ‘speak out’ to the world, Luther Blissett type of projects set out an open identity, depended on the digital performances that will be enacted in its name, an open identity which is amendable in relation to the political projects it engages with. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: re-public: re.imagining democracy Re-public : re-imagining democracy &#187; Geert Lovink - Θέσεις για τις πολιτικές μέσω πλατφόρμων συνεργασίας (wiki politics)</title>
		<link>http://networkcultures.org/wpmu/geert/2006/03/24/blogging-the-nihilist-impulse/comment-page-1/#comment-1070</link>
		<dc:creator>re-public: re.imagining democracy Re-public : re-imagining democracy &#187; Geert Lovink - Θέσεις για τις πολιτικές μέσω πλατφόρμων συνεργασίας (wiki politics)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Geert Lovink: Είναι ενδιαφέρον που τοποθετείτε τα blogs και τα wikis ως ανταγωνιστικούς παίκτες. Συνήθως, μέσα στην τρέλα του Web 2.0, blogs, wikis και ιστοσελίδες κοινωνικής δικτύωσης παρουσιάζονται ως συμπληρωματικές εφαρμογές. Η αλήθεια είναι ότι ο πολιτισμός των blogs, όπως υφίσταται αυτή τη στιγμή, εξυπηρετεί την ιδέα ‘είμαι το μόνο μυαλό που υπάρχει’. Στη μελέτη μου ‘Blogging, the Nihilist Impulse’ (Μπλόγκινγκ, η Μηδενιστική Παρόρμηση), αναλύω τη μπλογκοσφαίρα ως ιδιαίτερα ενδοσκοπική. Τα blogs αναδιαμορφώνουν τη μεταμοντέρνα τεχνολογική υποκειμενικότητα με τρόπο που δεν έχει ακόμη πλήρως ερευνηθεί. Γιατί; Επειδή το αποτέλεσμα θα ήταν εντελώς βαρετό. Γεγονός είναι ότι τα περισσότερα blogs έχουν διάρκεια ζωής δύο μηνών και συνεισφέρουν ελάχιστα στον φιλελεύθερο μύθο της εποχής μας που διακηρύσσει ότι οι bloggers είναι ‘πολίτες δημοσιογράφοι’. Είναι μια θλιβερή κατάσταση, ιδίως για την πρώτη και δεύτερη γενιά bloggers που πίστεψαν στη μεταξύ τους διασύνδεση και αλληλογραφία. Ωστόσο, από το 2004 η συνεργατική ατμόσφαιρα εξαφανίστηκε από την μπλογκοσφαίρα. Οι αρχικές αξίες χάθηκαν και η μπλογκοσφαίρα έγινε θορυβώδης και αυτό-διαφημιζόμενη. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Geert Lovink: Είναι ενδιαφέρον που τοποθετείτε τα blogs και τα wikis ως ανταγωνιστικούς παίκτες. Συνήθως, μέσα στην τρέλα του Web 2.0, blogs, wikis και ιστοσελίδες κοινωνικής δικτύωσης παρουσιάζονται ως συμπληρωματικές εφαρμογές. Η αλήθεια είναι ότι ο πολιτισμός των blogs, όπως υφίσταται αυτή τη στιγμή, εξυπηρετεί την ιδέα ‘είμαι το μόνο μυαλό που υπάρχει’. Στη μελέτη μου ‘Blogging, the Nihilist Impulse’ (Μπλόγκινγκ, η Μηδενιστική Παρόρμηση), αναλύω τη μπλογκοσφαίρα ως ιδιαίτερα ενδοσκοπική. Τα blogs αναδιαμορφώνουν τη μεταμοντέρνα τεχνολογική υποκειμενικότητα με τρόπο που δεν έχει ακόμη πλήρως ερευνηθεί. Γιατί; Επειδή το αποτέλεσμα θα ήταν εντελώς βαρετό. Γεγονός είναι ότι τα περισσότερα blogs έχουν διάρκεια ζωής δύο μηνών και συνεισφέρουν ελάχιστα στον φιλελεύθερο μύθο της εποχής μας που διακηρύσσει ότι οι bloggers είναι ‘πολίτες δημοσιογράφοι’. Είναι μια θλιβερή κατάσταση, ιδίως για την πρώτη και δεύτερη γενιά bloggers που πίστεψαν στη μεταξύ τους διασύνδεση και αλληλογραφία. Ωστόσο, από το 2004 η συνεργατική ατμόσφαιρα εξαφανίστηκε από την μπλογκοσφαίρα. Οι αρχικές αξίες χάθηκαν και η μπλογκοσφαίρα έγινε θορυβώδης και αυτό-διαφημιζόμενη. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: re-public: re.imagining democracyRe-public : re-imagining democracy - english version &#187; Geert Lovink - Theses on wiki politics</title>
		<link>http://networkcultures.org/wpmu/geert/2006/03/24/blogging-the-nihilist-impulse/comment-page-1/#comment-1069</link>
		<dc:creator>re-public: re.imagining democracyRe-public : re-imagining democracy - english version &#187; Geert Lovink - Theses on wiki politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Geert Lovink: It is interesting that you position blogs and wikis as antagonistic players. Usually, within the Web 2.0 craze, blogs, wikis and social networking site are portrayed as complimentary applications. It is true that blog culture, as it exists right now, facilitates the idea that &#8216;I am the only mind that exists&#8217;. In my essay Blogging, the Nihilist Impulse, I have analyzed the blogosphere as one that is by and large introspective. Blogs recast postmodern techno subjectivity in a way that has not yet been fully researched. Why? Because the outcome would be straight-out boring. The fact is that most blogs have a two-month lifespan and contribute little to the liberal myth of our time which proclaims that bloggers are &#8216;citizen journalists&#8217;. This is a sad state of affairs, in particular for the first and second generation of bloggers who believed in linking and responding to each other’s postings. However, by 2004 the collaborative atmosphere in the blogosphere had vanished. The original values disappeared and the blogosphere became noisy and self-promotional. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Geert Lovink: It is interesting that you position blogs and wikis as antagonistic players. Usually, within the Web 2.0 craze, blogs, wikis and social networking site are portrayed as complimentary applications. It is true that blog culture, as it exists right now, facilitates the idea that &#8216;I am the only mind that exists&#8217;. In my essay Blogging, the Nihilist Impulse, I have analyzed the blogosphere as one that is by and large introspective. Blogs recast postmodern techno subjectivity in a way that has not yet been fully researched. Why? Because the outcome would be straight-out boring. The fact is that most blogs have a two-month lifespan and contribute little to the liberal myth of our time which proclaims that bloggers are &#8216;citizen journalists&#8217;. This is a sad state of affairs, in particular for the first and second generation of bloggers who believed in linking and responding to each other’s postings. However, by 2004 the collaborative atmosphere in the blogosphere had vanished. The original values disappeared and the blogosphere became noisy and self-promotional. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: random items &#187; Digitale Nihilisten - Geert Lovink (Teil 1): Bloggen als Softwareeffekt</title>
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		<dc:creator>random items &#187; Digitale Nihilisten - Geert Lovink (Teil 1): Bloggen als Softwareeffekt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 23:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Geert Lovink Versuch einer medientheoretischen und philosophischen Analyse des Ph&#228;nomens Bloggen ist ehrenhaft, aber nur ansatzweise gelungen. Sicherlich gibt es durchaus gute Ans&#228;tze, aber, wie auch ein Kommentar zu der Ank&#252;ndigung seines Textes &#8220;Digitale Nihilisten&#8221; ganz klar formuliert, scheitert der Text an mindestens zwei Punkten: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Geert Lovink Versuch einer medientheoretischen und philosophischen Analyse des Ph&#228;nomens Bloggen ist ehrenhaft, aber nur ansatzweise gelungen. Sicherlich gibt es durchaus gute Ans&#228;tze, aber, wie auch ein Kommentar zu der Ank&#252;ndigung seines Textes &#8220;Digitale Nihilisten&#8221; ganz klar formuliert, scheitert der Text an mindestens zwei Punkten: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: event mechanics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; pessimistic about our nihilism</title>
		<link>http://networkcultures.org/wpmu/geert/2006/03/24/blogging-the-nihilist-impulse/comment-page-1/#comment-1067</link>
		<dc:creator>event mechanics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; pessimistic about our nihilism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 07:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lovink is caught up in the received binary of relevance or importance. Accordingly then, blogging is merely the &#8220;triviality that forms the drama of media freedom.&#8221; The importance-binary is received from what in Lvink&#8217;s terminology would be called ‘old media’, but it extends beyond the media apparatus. When talking about &#8216;importance&#8217; I am more interested in the function of importance, and not necessarily in its content. What does this mean? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lovink is caught up in the received binary of relevance or importance. Accordingly then, blogging is merely the &#8220;triviality that forms the drama of media freedom.&#8221; The importance-binary is received from what in Lvink&#8217;s terminology would be called ‘old media’, but it extends beyond the media apparatus. When talking about &#8216;importance&#8217; I am more interested in the function of importance, and not necessarily in its content. What does this mean? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: random serner &#187; Digitale Nihilisten - Geert Lovink (Teil 1): Bloggen als Softwareeffekt</title>
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		<dc:creator>random serner &#187; Digitale Nihilisten - Geert Lovink (Teil 1): Bloggen als Softwareeffekt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 06:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Geert Lovink Versuch einer medientheoretischen und philosophischen Analyse des Phänomens Bloggen ist ehrenhaft, aber nur ansatzweise gelungen. Sicherlich gibt es durchaus gute Ansätze, aber, wie auch ein Kommentar zu der Ankündigung seines Textes &#8220;Digitale Nihilisten&#8221; ganz klar formuliert, scheitert der Text an mindestens zwei Punkten: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Geert Lovink Versuch einer medientheoretischen und philosophischen Analyse des Phänomens Bloggen ist ehrenhaft, aber nur ansatzweise gelungen. Sicherlich gibt es durchaus gute Ansätze, aber, wie auch ein Kommentar zu der Ankündigung seines Textes &#8220;Digitale Nihilisten&#8221; ganz klar formuliert, scheitert der Text an mindestens zwei Punkten: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: POLIS - Sind Blogger digitale Nihilisten?</title>
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		<dc:creator>POLIS - Sind Blogger digitale Nihilisten?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sind Blogger digitale Nihilisten? [ Blog-Politik ] Medienwissenschaftler Gerd Lovink schreibt derzeit an einem Buch über Blogs. Ein Auszug davon mit dem Titel &quot;Digitale Nihilisten&quot; ist kürzlich in Lettres Internationales erschienen.  Frage mich gerade was ich davon halten soll. Einige kritische Anmerkungen dazu haben sich random theory und axonas gemacht.  [via Charming Quark / Digitale Nihilisten / Tags: Blogs, Blogtheorie, Blogger, Blogging, Nihilisten, Medien, Media] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sind Blogger digitale Nihilisten? [ Blog-Politik ] Medienwissenschaftler Gerd Lovink schreibt derzeit an einem Buch über Blogs. Ein Auszug davon mit dem Titel &#8220;Digitale Nihilisten&#8221; ist kürzlich in Lettres Internationales erschienen.  Frage mich gerade was ich davon halten soll. Einige kritische Anmerkungen dazu haben sich random theory und axonas gemacht.  [via Charming Quark / Digitale Nihilisten / Tags: Blogs, Blogtheorie, Blogger, Blogging, Nihilisten, Medien, Media] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: a reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>a reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 19:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blogging, once again, is  about the game of difference and repetition,
the collective production of sameness and singularity. in todays market
of opinions you need to be an artist in managing the tricksterism of delivering
a package with minimum content.

yes we have a thick description of a moving target (the bloggers) but what
else?  the message given here, the &quot;philosophy&quot; or &quot;theory&quot; is where the
real nihilism lays: there isn&#039;t one.  not by the method and not by the result.

the underlaying &quot;thesis&quot; is itself a repetition of a known cultural criticist
scheme, &quot;cultural pessimism&quot;: stating a general decay, and tendency
towards entropy, compared to the higher culture of the mailinglists.
with this not only claiming a long term relevance of &quot;network culture&quot; but
also taking a conservativist position with its microhistory. the relation
of network culture and general cultural theory remains untouched.
the possibility of media theory is answered by discovering that there
is no such possibility.

once again the reader has to submit to a given number of rethorical
figures, which are remixed and enriched with precise observations,
well placed puns, factoids and actualties. the &quot;theory&quot; given by the text is
at most applying to itself: it is a farewall to the possibility of theory, so
a text which legitimates its own inability to formulate a proper thesis by
claiming that the bloggossphere is not about making sense anyway.
yes, as dandyist attidude, but is this academic media theory?

such media theory adds  merely to the further establishment of a
structural mediocraty, which was
lately claimed also by jaron lanier for other stereotypical reasons (here: elitism)
such a form of &quot;theory theater&quot; with a very limited number of given positions
and tropa is rather a part of the symptom..   the packet is there,
but there is not much in it. (is that the nihilism?)

if we would be able to remember all books and newspapers written at the
turn of the 19th century, or even 6 years ago, we would certainly
suffer immediate cultural meltdown.

btw, to quote max bense to describe nihilism is rethorical joke,
max bense was a romantic conservative rationalist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blogging, once again, is  about the game of difference and repetition,<br />
the collective production of sameness and singularity. in todays market<br />
of opinions you need to be an artist in managing the tricksterism of delivering<br />
a package with minimum content.</p>
<p>yes we have a thick description of a moving target (the bloggers) but what<br />
else?  the message given here, the &#8220;philosophy&#8221; or &#8220;theory&#8221; is where the<br />
real nihilism lays: there isn&#8217;t one.  not by the method and not by the result.</p>
<p>the underlaying &#8220;thesis&#8221; is itself a repetition of a known cultural criticist<br />
scheme, &#8220;cultural pessimism&#8221;: stating a general decay, and tendency<br />
towards entropy, compared to the higher culture of the mailinglists.<br />
with this not only claiming a long term relevance of &#8220;network culture&#8221; but<br />
also taking a conservativist position with its microhistory. the relation<br />
of network culture and general cultural theory remains untouched.<br />
the possibility of media theory is answered by discovering that there<br />
is no such possibility.</p>
<p>once again the reader has to submit to a given number of rethorical<br />
figures, which are remixed and enriched with precise observations,<br />
well placed puns, factoids and actualties. the &#8220;theory&#8221; given by the text is<br />
at most applying to itself: it is a farewall to the possibility of theory, so<br />
a text which legitimates its own inability to formulate a proper thesis by<br />
claiming that the bloggossphere is not about making sense anyway.<br />
yes, as dandyist attidude, but is this academic media theory?</p>
<p>such media theory adds  merely to the further establishment of a<br />
structural mediocraty, which was<br />
lately claimed also by jaron lanier for other stereotypical reasons (here: elitism)<br />
such a form of &#8220;theory theater&#8221; with a very limited number of given positions<br />
and tropa is rather a part of the symptom..   the packet is there,<br />
but there is not much in it. (is that the nihilism?)</p>
<p>if we would be able to remember all books and newspapers written at the<br />
turn of the 19th century, or even 6 years ago, we would certainly<br />
suffer immediate cultural meltdown.</p>
<p>btw, to quote max bense to describe nihilism is rethorical joke,<br />
max bense was a romantic conservative rationalist.</p>
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		<title>By: random theory &#187; Digitale Nihilisten - Geert Lovink (Teil 1): Bloggen als Softwareeffekt</title>
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		<dc:creator>random theory &#187; Digitale Nihilisten - Geert Lovink (Teil 1): Bloggen als Softwareeffekt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Geert Lovink Versuch einer medientheoretischen und philosophischen Analyse des Phänomens Bloggen ist ehrenhaft, aber nur ansatzweise gelungen. Sicherlich gibt es durchaus gute Ansätze, aber, wie auch ein Kommentar zu der Ankündigung seines Textes ganz klar formuliert, scheitert der Text an mindestens zwei Punkten: [...]</description>
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